‘A Smooth Lie Is Still a Lie!: MSNBC’s Joy Reid Exposes JD Vance’s Deceptive Charm as Public Declares Vice Presidential Debate a ‘Civil’ Stalemate

For the partisans, last night’s vice-presidential debate was no contest. There was some agreement: Democratic nominee Tim Walz seemed a little out of sorts at the beginning, while Republican JD Vance, a podcaster and frequent talk show guest, appeared comfortable with the format. Republican vice presidential nominee U.S. Sen. JD Vance (R-OH) and MSNBC Host Joy Reid. (Photos: Getty Images) Otherwise, there was more agreement between the candidates than among the pundits paid to analyze them. “A smooth lie is still a lie. JD Vance is incredibly smooth,” said MSNBC’s Joy Reid of the Republican nominee for vice president. “But he said number one, nothing. They were just all smooth, bland lies. He got outdone by Tim Walz.” This J.D. Vance fact-check by @JoyAnnReid is